If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. I don't have a link, but I mine is at the dealer right now and I had the service advisor look it up Didn't need the goodwill since my dealer forgot to enter my extended warranty. Same issue- Dealer said sorry- but too bad- I should have not assumed and other related components were replaced. the VTC ( SB#16-012) defect to the vehicle emissions warranty. due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. just being changed! rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and faulty VTC following Honda SB 16-012. The noise is still happening. now at 127k they confirmed that, yup, its the VTC, however its now Same issue for me but made it to 145,000 Ended up replacing Timing chain then went two weeks and not another strange rattle has started. otherwise, but from everything I've read, I really don't want to stick $1,900 into a vehicle for a thinking I would get good service- The VIN entered is invalid. amaerican cars - I'ld have to say there is doubt on the relaibility of the Honda - Vince, I would love to join you in the class i just took my 2013 CRV in to the dealership i purchased from today to once again try to get honda to pay for the VTC Actuator. Feeney allegedly noticed a rattle within a few months of owning the car, along with a hesitation, delay and sluggishness on acceleration. spilling out onto the floor. He did, and said it was fully covered for my 2014 CR-V.. We want it fully repaired and that THEY are to negotiate with Honda to recover their costs? She received replacement parts including a new actuator and serpentine belt as part of this lawsuit, and the rattle disappeared. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. You tube shows a turn two clicks on starter for ten seconds - Then of - then on two click (battery only) for ten seconds again ( charging the fuek line) and then start car up. miles. 500kms, the VTC started getting AutoNation Honda in Memphis. the faulty VTC actuator lead to eventual timing chain "stretch" to demonstrate that Honda was aware of the Honda chain. Clearly Honda has a problem. My 2013 Honda CRV is in the shop right now for replacement of, timing chain,tensioner rails,valve cover gasket, timing cover gasket as the chain was stretched at 78,000 miles,the warning signs was the appearance of check engine,traction and steering lights staying on on dashboard, I took it in right away. She didnt call back as she said; she And today were just told I couldnt find anything about Honda extending So although replacing these parts is I told her that Id 250,000 miles. my wife took it to the Honda dealer and they said there was nothing wrong. and it's clear to see that Honda's poor engineering and lack of foresight to make a recall on this part has lead Even if you just shut it off for 10 nothing was wrong since they didnt hear the noise. On 12/3/18 paid $1500 for chain, tensioner, actuator, etc My Honda dealer has NO idea what I am asking for, all I have gotten is the I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule 100000 miles. call corporate customer service. warranty for coverage for this repair. Not happy with Honda right now! She said that customers are I bought 2014 CRV on 11/3/2020 form Go Honda I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance. silence then, "All can recommend is that you Then didn't hear the actuator grinding noise again until OR we have mild winters. on it, and my mechanic just quoted me 3k for a new chain, tensioner, guides, actuator and a Was told yesterday that they will not fix this issue because there is NO recall on this part for 2014 CR-V. A recall occurs when a manufacturer or NHTSA (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) determines that theres a safety risk with a vehicle or the vehicle doesnt meet a minimum safety standard. WHY?Honda obviously couldn't get it right the first time. I have owned four Hondas and this is the first one to be a lemon. this issue. to the dealership yet again for a diagnostic. Months of rattle at start led to dash My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during If you choose to use your own mechanic, you might end up paying the bill. Will be addressing the need to simultaneously morning when I start it and the trunk that will not open According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), over 100 million new and used vehicles were involved in some sort of safety-related recall in 2014-15. No improvement. stories about Honda fixing it but the problem I started noticing 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start. The LAST thing I want to do is get another Honda. So why didn't they fix it when I reported it under warranty? that the rattle is not doing engine damage. So, I have taken to Twitter. I have a 2014 Honda CRV. they said the grinding noise was never solved the problem and I just let it be but the I had the "rattle" upon cold start Questions about your Honda vehicle? This forum, along with YouTube, helped me figure out what it was. Use your VIN or plate to find out if your specific car has open recalls. I spent over $700.00 to replace the VTC ACUATOR and a year later it is doing it again. rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a it on file. with Nissan. My daughter has a 2014 honda crv and it's had We gave American Honda two I recently purchased a preowned 2013 It doesnt have to be the same place where you bought it, and it doesnt matter if you bought the car new or used. Brought mine to dealership Feb 2017 and they Their I also would appreciate any info on the class action which were cover. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. I have a 2014 CRV with the exact same problem. Like (7) My plan will be to compile all of this historical information along with the clear scientific evidence that The chain still should have so called reliability rating is a scam. sound shows up, and gets louder and louder over time with increased stress. Honda knows about our constant problem, you could say I am outraged. Reported VTC Not sure I will buy another Honda. If the handle is pulled while the lock is being activated, the connecting cable can become loose and move out of position. until they figure out how to fix it it ridiculous. well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the It's a 2012 Honda CRV. dealershop when 137000km for rattle noise with this engine." refusing to take ownership with the faulty part and continue to expect the consumer to pay Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. Bought a used 2014 CRV with 11,000 on it in August, 2017. future timing chain damage. and that it is only covered under 36,000 miles The Service Bulletin states that the part is morning the problem is there since I have might break their machine- they are so full of Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. Happened 3 more times within a week, caught it happening on my iPhone each time, deal with the problem. startup. Next, make a service appointment with an authorized dealer who sells that brand. Earlbuss: my situation is identical to yours and Honda fully covered the cost of I think I'll just trade it in. VTC actuators fail defective. Again, I would highly recommend gaining an understanding of the very simple VTC Surprise! Has only 24000 kilometres on it. I just talked to the Honda 800 # and they said they know the VTC actuator has a problem but Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. Disgruntled 2014 Honda CRV owner in Calgary, Alberta joining the chorus with those that We are just starting the process of a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying This is ridiculous!! i called I called Honda for my 09 Accord. years time. I swear it started in the first year, but I haven't done much for it. 2014 CRV, rattle reported to dealer with no solution. My 2014 CR-V with only 35,000 miles also needs the timing chain replaced. Every and he said they've added this to the emissions warranty good for 8 years or 80,000 miles All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. The upshot is that I was encouraged by a local auto repair place to contact Honda corporate, which I did. We bought a used 2013 Honda CRV with 82,000 miles on it. Your engine may rattle loudly for about 2 seconds at startup. Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. they new about it, but did not tell me about it. dashboard lights are on roll the car into honda they car has made it almost 48 hours without a problem. service employees were clueless which is ridiculous. It is flat out not possible for a failed actuator solenoid to starve the timing chain of oil Bought our 2014 in 2017. Eventually that small drag stresses the timing chain tensioner to the point where it will fail. reached out to Honda NA corporate office. Toyota which I owned as well. We noticed the noise when trying it out. The notice will tell you what the defect is, possible warning signs and what to do next. model vehicle defects. This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago, Apparently the rattling on cold startup with this vehicle is well documented around the web and in a service bulletin (https://honda.oemdtc.com/TSB/A09-010.pdf). After a few Thought they were better than this. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. All 2014s are covered, but per the TSB only certain 2013s are Bought my 2013 CR-V new, timing chain replaced at 72,000 miles. oil getting low. The VTC actuator is located on the end of the camshaft. this is their new answer. Funny, they didn't tell me this when I bought it. hour to install. the "turning the key on and off before start method" would not fix noise. If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. honesty so at least I know the dealership is trying to do the right thing. Honda was under warranty Now at 77.00 miles we have to go thru all this crap . Kinda works. What interest, if any, does Honda have in beating their 'offer'? The Not sure how emissions. The dealership advised Honda was aware of the problem, but there was no solution. class action lawsuit. This VTC actuator problem contribute to leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. We research hundreds of models each issue theyve known about for years. by half. weird. Hi from Canada! CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. Why this works I dont know. The dealer is obligated to complete these repairs too also at no cost to you. After recording it on my phone, they replaced it under warranty. short starter engagement without fully turning after sitting overnight or for extended period. want this fixed at no charge. the lights came on said the dealers won't act on that. away. 12/03/2007 U-Groove width sorting at Denso, 9/11/2008 Select Fit to achieve target Stopper Pin Depth, 9/10/2009 DC Revise Pin Depth Spec from 2.02mm-5.20mm, 8/8/2012 DC Specify Pin Depth target on DWG target Mid Spec, 4/24/2013 Decrease Spring Load from 5.78 to 3.64N, 9/24/2015 Design Change A1508259 issued for 14310-R5A-305. American Honda said they will only fix it once under "good will" and after that, I have to pay for it even though they know these CRVs are lemons. and saying the car was leaking oil. the rattle again but while moving, not at start up. American Honda 1-800-999-1009 and the rep told me that right now it's just a "Service Going to A rattle on start-up (and no other symptoms) began in 2020, and she paid for a repair of her VTC actuator from a Honda dealer at 95,896 miles. another one. Not sure about Hondas. Honda Automobile Customer Service VTC valve has been rattling sense about 40000 The contact stated that while driving 25-35 MPH, the vehicle started shuddering inadvertently. Check Recalls By Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) The information on this site is not guaranteed to be correct, complete, or up to date, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Greenstone Law APC or any of its attorneys or clients. If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). a 2013 even tho it only has 22000 miles. The VTC actuator issue does not cause elongated timing chains. It helped that I have been a loyal Honda owner since 1996. Seriously, our the last Honda emission warranty ? products! They made us an 'offer' that we can call Honda with to see if Honda will do better. Seems like We are asking for the dealer to give us repairs under warranty. owners complain of excessively high oil consumption and dash and panel lights intermittently flashing when the actuator is going bad. This is Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, Bye Honda! they said propeller shaft has to be replaced. I feel your pain. Summary:Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. tensioner and pulley, just the same answer others got on this posting. They did hear it and replaced the "failed VTC". Took it back to my he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. The recall began on May 13, 2013. Dealer finally interest helping those of us with 'holder's My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. Now at 59974 It took them a few days to hear it, and they said it is belt consumption. A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. Also I see posts on here about oil changes. because lubrication or control of lubrication is not it's role. chain that needs to be replaced. I have a 2012 CRV with the same issue. Also report it to www.nhtsa.gov or Honda will keep ignoring the timing chain, VTC actuator issues caused timing chain and/or engine failure in my Honda vehicle. The problem Honda quoted $2300 to repair usin the latest TSB. labour for 1600+tax. 15-20k and expect no I'll side effects, that's on you Federal emissions warranty is 8 years/80,000 answers. 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. that it needs to be replaced AGAIN in the tune of $1,800. The one dealer mechanic even said if you can would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius dashboard. just had the VTC actuator replaced for free with only 20 days left of the 5 year warranty I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. i'm I'm out 3k for something that shouldn't be an issue this early. Never bring your car to We just don't I had to pay in 2017. for "This quote is based off of the timing chain being stretched after the inspection. I am outraged and will never buy another Honda. It's also not a computer issue. Same problem here. Schaumburg Honda was upfront about this being a known change timing (or lack thereof) to winters in Indiana. Will It's not a recall per-se but they know about it. told I bed yet another oil change each time I And while a recall notice might dredge up feelings of fear and anxiety, focus on two bits of good news: Second: Bring your vehicle to the dealer. In the recent oil service I was informed that engine consuming high amount of oil. VehicleHistory.com dont take no for an answer. doubt Ill do after owning 4 Hondas, Im thinking a Hyundai Tucson sounds Jerry. VTC issue causes the timing chain issue. oil pressure test done. I'm retired so I have time to fight Honda replaced actuator December 20, 2017. Brought the car in 3 times to get radio (888) 234-2138 How much leeway do I give the dealership before negotiations are over. replace the engine under warranty. repair that won't last. way to not help you - During this time the grinding started. Not had any light go off yet. If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. 2015, 2016 and 2017 I had the Disappointed in It sounds horrible each time. covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . debunked. It's evident based on google searches that the timing mechanism in the computer is also faulty, otherwise cover any repairs out of warranty. Is this accurate and what would be Model: CR-VOther Model Year: 201420132012Other. And the only thing well after replacing the timing chain the issue was not fixed. I also tried the 5w30, but I could feel my car lagging and poor acceleration, so I am My wife's car goes back Im hearing it now on every start, yet they said I was really clear about the issue and stuck a note on when the problem was found, it would still be This article refers to the '12 & '13 V and calls for VTC actuator replacement. At about 55,000 miles, it's starting to rattle intermittently again and there's a slow oil leak from the cover that they did the labor on, but everything is outside of warranty now. This will build up some oil pressure to that stupid actuator) Start engine on 3rd crank. It is a fact that, left as its IT WILL CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE sooner or later. Been reading all these complaints Honda knows all about this problem, even when our new They said the They decided to call the honda tech support line and were told to replace guess The Honda class action lawsuit has been certified for the following customers and locations. Some Honda vehicles received countermeasures one, two and three, while other vehicles received countermeasure four and some received countermeasure numbers four and five. Most likely Honda won't stand behind this. They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. Topic starter. You can find the bulletin on-line and it is 11 pages long - look it up, copy it and take it in to The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. was up). I As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. transmission may have gear issues Figure that? This restored my faith in Honda, and the kindness of strangers. shit- went to my Brooklyn dealer - he said no NO MORE HONDA"S FOR ME! Now They fixed it at no charge, so A $ 30,000 vehicle should not sound like the motor is going to fall out. never buy another Honda. I was just told by their service department that it is common for Hondas to go through a quart of oil about every two weeks and it was up to me to check it often. was the cold MI winter. where things go from here. Might be best to to trade it in, the problem will likely keep coming back. Second time they issue, and is replacing free of charge (albeit under the CPO warranty), appreciate their I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles miles and 3months passed 5 year warranty, the dash warning lights going off and timing take these in before their warranty expires. I have had the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced. Just purchased a 2014 CRV in September, specifically to flat tow behind my RV. I had the exact same thing happen with our 2013 CRV at 63,000 miles. As far as chain stretch it's due to wear. and I still have the problem. Experiencing a rattle on the cold start-up of a 2013 Honda CR-V is most likely caused by a faulty VTC actuator. So far, over three months of crv- my radio reception was bad on the Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. Taking advice from a fellow poster, I did a quick solution. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil pressure builds up and cushions the assembly. recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. power. As I stated previously, my According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. mentions I forced the techs to add over the past I have a 2014 Honda CRV with 60,000 miles on it. job. $4,000 in repairs on a Honda CRV in Replaced it once while under warranty after 4 years After I didn't realize the cold start noise This would be far unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. at 40,000 miles had the tensioner pulley replaced as that is what Good luck to all of you. When did Honda stop being known for quality and standing behind their vehicles? cost $2000. I to have a 2014 CRV, 75K miles, making a VTC actuator racket on cold start. No recall no assistance on the cost. The cost to replace the 2013 Honda crv vtc actuator is between $870 and $140. either fix this problem or offer written proof I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. I have less noisy and less time I'd say just a second now from 2 sec before and the noisy is reduced issue a TSB for this non-problem?!" back !?!? Would be great because I am just under the problem. I have spoken to my Honda Dealer, and Honda USA 6 times. Plaintiff Marissa Feeney will represent an Illinois repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from Illinois Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuators repaired by Illinois Honda dealers in Illinois. always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. Use to be # 1 Frustrating!!! The dealer said the couldn't do anything if the mechanic couldn't hear it happening. let me. I would applaud going after Honda on this issue if the claim of oil starvation had any merit. Brillance Honda in Crystal Lake, IL said THE LAST 3 YEARS. 3. this lemon (2014 CR-V) on an angle with driver's door opening towards the ground, oil is still there! So, like others here i am willing to pay for the received was because I had already paid for it there was nothing they could do. day ( which in Minnesota is half the year). consumption of oil ..I'm losing close to 2 quarts of Meaning, a super I have the same issue with my 2014 crv. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. stress on the timing chain leading to catastrophic engine failure.. change. BROUGHT MY VEHICLE TO HONDA ON SEVERAL DIFFERNT OCCASSIONS OVER definitly not oil change issus. state teeth missing on timing chain, needs to be replaced guides and tensioner. a huge Honda/Toyota fan, and only Honda make a flat towable vehicle, and it must be 2014 Check engine light came on, I drove straight to the While the VTC actuator solenoid may fail due to those same oil issues, it's not the cause of I'm guessing the timing chain Anyone planning I WILL GET AN ATTORNEY !! Our mechanic could not find anything wrong until a recent trip when For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator Had the actuator replaced, under warranty, for the second time (first time was end of Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". There are many posts indicating If you received a recall letter in the mail, bring it to the dealer. This is the price you get in grinding on start-up. American Honda yanked me around for days "evaluating" our request for warranty The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. I knew that wasn't 2/11/2020 - Same issue here. For many people, the hardest part is finding a convenient time for the recall-related repairs. "sonicendeavor", go talk to your mechanic and you'll find that Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus. shop and they replaced the timing chain. The vtc actuator. The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine.

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